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Fourthrail Diamond 708 posts since
Mar 30, 2007

Oct 29, 2009 9:27 PM

Microsoft Haunted By Windows 7 Upgrade Issue

Microsoft is facing growing frustration over its lack of direction on Windows 7 upgrade versions, and some bloggers who usually support the company's moves are starting to speak out. Read the full article at Channelweb via http://www.crn.com/software/221300023.

CBC Newbie 1 posts since
Oct 29, 2009

I don't know what the issue is.  I purchased a Windows Home Premium 3 pack for $149.00, and upgraded three laptops.  One Vista PC (Newer) and two XP PC's (older).  Each upgrade went flawlessly and way faster than expected.  The upgrade process was VERY specific on what upgrade direction to take.  It was the easiest MS operating system upgrade I've done since MS-DOS 2.0 to MS-DOS 3.3  (okay I'm dating myself)

Macer Newbie 1 posts since
Oct 29, 2009

Knew this was coming... What other company has a multi-billion dollar industry to protect the software from flaws and viruses. MS sucks so bad, I love it. Funny to see you suckers so pissed off, get a mac and enjoy you computing life for once!!!

 

I am a mac, and PC suck the big one....

jgjbc Newbie 1 posts since
Oct 29, 2009

I have to agree with CBC....and disagree with Macer.  Apple is no great "feature" either.  The play proprietary games that I'm just not willing to get into...and unless they've changed their ways, let's not even talk about what happens when you open the case.  As for Windows 7, thank you Microsoft!  Finally an easy upgrade.  I downgraded an older Vista laptop back to XP because I didn't want to upgrade over Vista...nothing to it using my OEM disk.  Once XP was installed, I put my Windows 7 disc in, told it I wanted to do a "Custom Install", and let it go.  No problems, nothing went wrong and it works fine.  It is, indeed, the " easiest MS operating system upgrade I've done since MS-DOS 2.0 to MS-DOS 3.3" to borrow a quote.

MaZx Newbie 3 posts since
Oct 29, 2009

I was very exicted about Windows 7 but Thanks to Microsoft Student Discount that left my system unrepairable. I guess that's what you get for getting it cheap?? I downloaded the cr@p from DigitalRiver and everything went good except when it got to last stage "Completing" and thats where the process hanged. I left the system on for an hour thinking it might take longer since I'm doing clean installation to 64bit Windows. Nothing worked what so ever..and every time I start the system it goes back to installation process and kept asking me to restart the processes and while I do that, it repeats the same thing over and over. And since I DO NOT HAVE A DISK! THANK YOU SO MUCH MICROSOFT FOR NOT PROVING AN ISO FILE WHICH I COULD HAVE BURNED THE CD AND INSTALL IT WITHOUT A PROBLEM NOW!!!

darrellapparel6220 Newbie 1 posts since
Oct 29, 2009

Vista is a joke- I have two computers that are Vista! Now I know why the price was so competitive. Now they want to charge us for Windows 7, are you kidding me? What a travesty for Microsoft not to offer free upgrades for a system that is basically junk!

Hyperpower Newbie 3 posts since
Sep 17, 2009

I had an issue with my digital river download also.  I figured out a way to make it into an ISO with help from the internet.  However, when trying to upgrade from Windows XP with a clean install I got "Activation Code Invalid."  I typed my code so many times but it didn't work.  It was frustrating that the software wasn't smart enough to tell me NOT to do a clean install from Windows XP. The only way I could get it to work was to Install Vista then use my upgrade ISO.  Little confusing don't you think?

theknowmad Newbie 4 posts since
Oct 29, 2009

What is wrong with you people?  An upgrade without a DVD, are you a retard?  And Macs, really, you just paid $30 for a service pack, ha ha ha.  I work in IT and have been running Windows 7 beta, Windows 7 RC and now Windows 7 Ultimate and it is a solid operating system.  Vista did blow, but that all changed with 7.  Vista was created with each department keeping their code under lock and key.  In Windows 7 all departments were encouraged to share code and collaborate on the OS as a whole.  MS offers free AV and it works quite well.  Macs don't have too many threats because they still only cover about 8% of the U.S. market and 4% of the worldwide market.  If Mac users keep convincing people to switch to the ridiculously expensive Macs, then more viruses will be written for them, and that is a fact.  To anyone reading this who really wants to know about upgrading to Windows 7, remember two things: Backup your data on an external hard drive and perform a fresh install of Windows.  Always perform a fresh install of any OS when a new version is out.  It isn't like Snow Leopard is a new OS like 7 is compared to Vista.  It's not like Snow Leopard is Mac OS 11, it's still just 10.6 instead of 10.5, which as I stated above, looks more like a service pack.  Move to Windows 7, it'll be okay.

anonymous Newbie 1 posts since
Oct 30, 2009

haha this makes me laugh as well instead of that $30 dollars you're paying over $100 for our service pack. I mean your only go from nt build 6.0 to 6.1 big jump here. your just running vista with a few tweeks

tiger168 Newbie 2 posts since
Oct 30, 2009
9. Oct 30, 2009 2:42 AM in response to: CBC
Re: Microsoft Haunted By Windows 7 Upgrade Issue

There is no direct upgrade path from Windows XP.  So you had to do a clean install on your XP computers.  That was the point the article was trying to make.  ALso many "cheap" deals on the market in selling "upgrade" assume you already have a version of VISTA as it is the only direct upgrade path.  Your comment is confusing to people who reads it and thinking there is a upgrade path from XP.  There is not.

 

If you are already using the W7 evaluation copy since it's release, however, there is a way to upgrade it with the new full package, wihtout having to do a clean install.  It is not a secret on the internet, just google it.  Microsoft software license did not cover the evaluation upgrade to full package was legal or not, a gray area.  Since you have to purchase the full version to begin with  I don't think the work around on the internet will violate anything.

 

I am not encourage hacking, but, when I can't locate half of the application CDs of my laptop, and had to force to get a HD to just upgrade  I think that is rediculous for Mirosoft to assume that.

 

Again, a multi-billion public company releasing their flagship product and ignoring the customer base's voice does not ge my sympathy.  Especially what they have done in VISTA and with Windows 7, they are doing it again.  It is obvious that they think they can get away with it.

 

Also, I just found out that Windows 7 does not support my old reliable Cannon flat bed scanner.  I meant really, if I need to do a clean install, I do have options now.  If I have to throw out my old apps and old HW because of an Windows OS upgrade, I do have options now.

 

Next year I hav eto deal with MS Office upgrade, ther eis just no way I am spending full retail for it.  As I have done multiple times in the past.

 

I don't need an upgrade, I just need it/them to work right.  Especially when I paid for it.

Dustty Newbie 2 posts since
Oct 30, 2009

I had an issue with my digital river download.... ...The only way I could get it to work was to Install Vista then use my upgrade ISO.  Little confusing don't you think?

 

-Not really since Digital River says the upgrade is for Vista, and not XP. Not sure why you would think an upgrade for Vista would work for XP... Maybe read the details before you buy? Two different platforms. Vista and W7 are built off the same platform.

12qwq Newbie 1 posts since
Mar 2, 2007

Nice one

MaZx Newbie 3 posts since
Oct 29, 2009

What is wrong with you people?  An upgrade without a DVD, are you a retard?

 

-If you're so quick to judge, maybe you should have done some research about Microsoft student discount files from digitalriver. There are 3 file provided for those who wanted to Upgrade to Windows 7. setup1.box , setup2.box and Windows 7-P-Retail-en-us-x64.exe. So how do you expect people to have a DVD? And it makes you wonder why people rather use illegal copy of Windows.

theknowmad Newbie 4 posts since
Oct 29, 2009
13. Oct 30, 2009 6:59 PM in response to: MaZx
Re: Microsoft Haunted By Windows 7 Upgrade Issue

Look, all I'm saying is that if you know enough to post a comment on an article, you should know enough to install Windows.  In fact, you should have to know how to install any OS before using it.  But alas, end-users have no idea how to install an OS correctly.  And no, it isn't Microsoft's job to ensure that everyone knows the proper way to install an operating system, they are simply in charge of creating it.  It isn't Ford's job to make sure you know how to drive, is it?  Many people cannot fix their own vehicles, and take them to a shop to have work done, same goes here.  If you buy a new PC, it will come with an OS right out of the box.  If you buy a new car, you can drive it home.  If you want to upgrade your car, you either need to know how or take to someone who does.  If you think you can install an OS without a disc of any kind, then you are a retard.  You wouldn't expect to install a car stereo without wires, would you?  What about plumbing, how about installing a new pipe without bushings, you would get a leak guaranteed.  If you want to brave a new installtion without the proper tools, you are going to have problems.  It really is that simple.  Stop hating on Microsoft because you are too stupid to install their OS, it's not their fault, IT"S YOURS!!  Take responsibility for your actions and respectfully admit that you have no idea what is going on and that you need help installing Windows.  I'm sure that if there was an issue with Digital River that there is a post about it somewhere, and if you Googled around for it you would find numerous articles relating to your problem.  Have you ever installed Windows before?  Did it require a disc?  I'll bet it did.  And if not on CD or DVD, then on a hard drive.  Why you would think you can install a fresh copy of an OS from the drive you are attempting to install it on is beyond me and I hope you have better luck in the future.  Feel free to email me if you have any questions.

theknowmad Newbie 4 posts since
Oct 29, 2009

Actually it's a complete overhaul of the undercarraige of the entire OS.  Granted it's what Vista should have been, it really is their most powerful OS to date.  And sorry, but no it didn't cost me $100. It was free since I'm part of TechNet.  And Macs are simply too expensive for the hardware you get, it just isnt worth it.  MacBooks I'll admit, are the best laptops.  The single aluminum body and the multi-touch glass trackpad are phenomonal.  But in the desktop arena, Windows reigns supreme.  I get so much more for my money, you really can't compare.  OOOH a 27" iMac, please, I have a 40" monitor with HD.  I am going to give Apple props on the new LightDeck technology coming out, it should really up the bar on peripheral communication.  When all is said and done, Windows 7 is awesome and Macs are still only 4% of the worldwide market.  I don't need their elitest attitude.  But I LOVE MY IPHONE!!!  I hate admitting it, but the iPhone is the single geatest device I have ever seen.  Can't wait to see the next iteration of this wonderful gadget.

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